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ATF
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1892 Posts |
 Posted - 09/03/2010 : 23:08:26
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I guess tis the season for new tractors. In all fairness I have more than my fair share, but I'm a P-I-G. I found this through a friend, he gave me the guys number. I thought he told me he wanted 50 bucks for the tractor, he says he said 150, but I was under the impression the motor was bad, but he says it runs good, so 150 it is, I'll pick it up in a couple of days in Wichita
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larry8200
USA
3166 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2010 : 23:16:56
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| Yeh, got potential, maybe that 48" deck is good. I can get you a bargain on lace trimmed seat pillows :) |
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skunkhome
USA
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Posted - 09/03/2010 : 23:19:35
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| 150 isn't too bad. Can I find you picture on the post-office wall? |
  Phil
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty."
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Gray
Canada
165 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2010 : 03:06:12
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150? That's illegal. Total steal.
o gee whiz, the seat needs replace.
will it cook breakfast as well as Larry's? |
ALLIS CHALMERS 716H
SIMPLICITY Pacer 1334 |
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ATF
USA
1892 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2010 : 08:02:25
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Originally posted by Gray
150? That's illegal. Total steal.
o gee whiz, the seat needs replace.
will it cook breakfast as well as Larry's?
Actually no, t doesn't have a grille. but I can strap some brisket to the muffler shield and make some pretty fine BBQ while I cut the grass. |
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ATF
USA
1892 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2010 : 18:14:21
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| Going o Wichita first thing tomorrow and snagging it. I cant wait to see it in person |
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Cvans
USA
4407 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2010 : 21:01:59
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And it runs too. If you were any luckier you'd have to be twins. I'm going to call a guy back about a 914 with a rebuilt motor that smokes  and he wants $250. Says his Son rebuilt it in school. Do you want to trade .
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The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson
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ATF
USA
1892 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2010 : 23:25:58
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Originally posted by Cvans
And it runs too. If you were any luckier you'd have to be twins. I'm going to call a guy back about a 914 with a rebuilt motor that smokes and he wants $250. Says his Son rebuilt it in school. Do you want to trade.
Chris
Believe it or not, that's more of a temptation than you know. I'm a BIG single cylinder 14hp 16hp kohler collector, but I have plans for a Kohler M20 Magnum in this beast, maybe a small diesel |
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Cvans
USA
4407 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2010 : 00:01:14
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Don't get started on that diesel stuff. I'm warning you that's a pit you'll never get out of buy yourself. Two years ago I transplanted my first diesel and now every tractor I get has to be examined for the possibility of another transplant. I'm thinking very seriously about putting one of these in that 914 if I end up with it.
http://concreteliftingusa.com/DEK.HTML
Chris
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The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson
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thepatriot
USA
98 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2010 : 05:57:41
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| Great score,good looking tractor! |
AC B10-Simplicity LL101,7010,7110,7790DIESEL
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Gray
Canada
165 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2010 : 13:35:13
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| Is there a problem with these 17 twins? It seems to me I hear mixed rumours. |
ALLIS CHALMERS 716H
SIMPLICITY Pacer 1334 |
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simplelife
USA
1385 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2010 : 13:49:20
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Is there a problem with these 17 twins? It seems to me I hear mixed rumours.
If I remember correctly, the series 1 still had a splash lube system and with the opposed twins if you ran them on a side incline for any period of time, the uphill bank would not get lubed, almost certain failure. The series II they added an oil pump to correct this problem. That is how I recall it anyhow. Very few of the Series I models survived giving them a bad reputation.
The sticker on the side of this one looks to be a series II, so there should be a better than average shot at it being an ok engine. |
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Gray
Canada
165 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2010 : 13:55:00
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Chris - brand new diesels for that price - wow.
I spoke to a guy recently, he uses diesel, and he said for fuel he has been using recovered auto transmission fluid, from tranny servicing shop. Not sure of the details; but it sounds like pretty cheap fuel. Does that make sense in your experience?
I also have been learning recently about how Hydro trans works - at least, better hydros such as Vickers and Sundstrand. Apparently engine hp is not all that important. Apparently, enough power to spin the hydro pump to maintain pump pressure is mostly what's required, so the trans can make torque to the wheels. On flat ground we need only tiny hp. On hills and bigger loads, we need about 10 or 12 ish - perhaps slightly more at times. So huge hp engines really aren't required with a better quality hydro, for most usage, for most individuals.
This almost says that there is very little difference between a Simp/AC with whatever motor - from 10hp to 20hp, since the trans is the bigger factor. |
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Cvans
USA
4407 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2010 : 14:53:02
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I'm not a petro chemist but personally I would be looking into the transmission oil thing. I believe some of those oils have compounds in them that increase the traction between the clutch plates. How these compounds would react in a high pressure combustion environment is beyond me. I guess if the vendor of the engines is willing to back up his statements, go for it. I know mixing 50% diesel and 50% filtered crank case oil is suppose to be OK and many are doing it. I use so little fuel with these diesels that I'm not sure it would be worth the mess. I've been wanting to install one of those diesels for 2 years so if the 914 follows me home I could be doing the install next spring. I promised the wife I would do some remodeling in the house this winter so my free time in the near future is going to be very limited. Please let me know if you purchase one of those engines and how it turned out.
Chris
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The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson
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ATF
USA
1892 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2010 : 22:58:18
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| Those DEK diesels aren't so hot, might be okay for a cement mixer or small tractor, but they wont hold up to larger tractors, too small a shaft size. Caterpillar has one for 599.00 that's a REAL garden tractor diesel |
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ATF
USA
1892 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2010 : 23:00:04
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| BTW, if you didn't see my post, my 917 was a 712 or 7012, had a cut out on the tunnel for a three speed, and wrong model numbers for a 917 |
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