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1014211

USA
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Posted - 06/30/2012 :  14:34:15  Show Profile  Visit 1014211's Homepage Send 1014211 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Used the weedcutter for about an hour cutting trails for the atv's through tall grass. Love using it with the front pto on the 7016. Unfortunately the overheating issue has gotten bad enough I have to run it with the hood off. It never has a problem now. I want to get an older hood (3300 or 3400 series?) and then put the heat shield on the top of the motor so the engine can blow the hot air out. As it is it blasts the back of the headlights, gets trapped under the hood and I think sucks it back in and a never ending cycle begins. Then it starts missing and is WAY down on power after 15 minutes even when temps are in the 70's. Oh well, works great this way!!



Jon

Count Macula

USA
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Posted - 06/30/2012 :  16:49:38  Show Profile Send Count Macula a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I bet a muffler stack would fix your heat issue. And seriously, besides a weedcutter, whats cooler than a stack?

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1014211

USA
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Posted - 06/30/2012 :  18:50:52  Show Profile  Visit 1014211's Homepage Send 1014211 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I didn't have a full stack but I did have a pipe getting the exhaust out from under the hood. It was even chrome. I've had two different engines in this tractor and they both did it, so I'm cnvinced it's the design. Oh well.....



Jon
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1014211

USA
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Posted - 06/30/2012 :  18:54:10  Show Profile  Visit 1014211's Homepage Send 1014211 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
BTW, those dual stacks make yours look sinister!!! :)

Jon
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Count Macula

USA
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Posted - 06/30/2012 :  19:00:06  Show Profile Send Count Macula a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You still have the muffler under the hood though. How about exhaust wrap? I use this stuff on the headers of my tuner cars.
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_Exhaust-Wrap---Tan-Design-Engineering_16120012-P_N3638B_P%7CGRP2039P_____
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Count Macula

USA
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Posted - 06/30/2012 :  19:06:07  Show Profile Send Count Macula a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 1014211

BTW, those dual stacks make yours look sinister!!! :)





I have removable baffles in the pipes, to keep friendly with the neighbors.
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olcowhand

USA
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Posted - 06/30/2012 :  19:20:10  Show Profile  Visit olcowhand's Homepage Send olcowhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Count Macula

I bet a muffler stack would fix your heat issue. And seriously, besides a weedcutter, whats cooler than a stack?





Just curious as to shy the weed cutter has a full loop slider on the right side, but only a teardrop shaped slider on it's left? I'm assuming it throws the cut stuff to the left & the tearrdrop shape lets it pass over it easier?

Daniel in Ky -- So much to do, so little time!




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1014211

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Posted - 06/30/2012 :  19:38:00  Show Profile  Visit 1014211's Homepage Send 1014211 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It all goes left, Daniel. I never thought of it but I bet thats why.

Jon
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Count Macula

USA
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Posted - 06/30/2012 :  19:51:52  Show Profile Send Count Macula a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Daniel, I never really thought about it either but I think you are correct. With my experince the cutter doesn't really throw the cuttings very far, unless I hit a downed branch then watch out splinters are going everywhere! It more lays the stuff down and chops it up, so if there were a full loop in the left it would probably get bound up.

It truly is awesome though, I have cut fields of grass taller than the stacks are high.
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Denny

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Posted - 07/01/2012 :  07:12:42  Show Profile  Visit Denny's Homepage Send Denny a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by olcowhand

quote:
Originally posted by Count Macula

I bet a muffler stack would fix your heat issue. And seriously, besides a weedcutter, whats cooler than a stack?





Just curious as to shy the weed cutter has a full loop slider on the right side, but only a teardrop shaped slider on it's left? I'm assuming it throws the cut stuff to the left & the tearrdrop shape lets it pass over it easier?



It was supposed to act like a plow,, the front is angled,, but not quite enough,,, they had good intensions when they designed it though.

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skunkhome

USA
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Posted - 07/01/2012 :  09:21:57  Show Profile Send skunkhome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You could also be looking for hoods off the early 7000 series as well as it has the lights mounted in pods on the side like the 3300 and 3400 series.

You might also try venting the hood similar to the 7100, 900 series.

Phil



"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty."

Benjamin Franklin

Edited by - skunkhome on 07/01/2012 09:24:43
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briggs9498

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Posted - 07/01/2012 :  13:02:30  Show Profile  Visit briggs9498's Homepage Send briggs9498 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't quite think there's a flaw in the design of the hoods because my 7016 has never gotten hotter than any of my other tractors and it gets worked the hardest by far. As long as the fins are cleaned and all the shroud and tin work is clean it should stay cool. Another thing to look at or think about is you really shouldn't work these engines or any air-cooled engines hard at idle.

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skunkhome

USA
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Posted - 07/01/2012 :  13:21:26  Show Profile Send skunkhome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have heard elsewhere that overheating was an issue on the late model 700 and 7000 series because the direct flow from under the hood was blocked by the headlights

Phil



"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty."

Benjamin Franklin
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B-16_IC

USA
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Posted - 07/01/2012 :  13:42:54  Show Profile  Visit B-16_IC's Homepage Send B-16_IC a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Underhood heat is the main reason I went to a 900/7100 series for lawn mowing duty. The 700 series I used last year and the year previous just got hot, even last year with the headlights out, and my exhaust ran outside too. The amount of additional air space under the hood of the 900 is huge!

I'd say looking funny while mowing is sure better than a cooked engine. Leave the hood in the garage.

Life is all about paying. Pay attention, or pay the consequences, the choice is yours. Rich

Edited by - B-16_IC on 07/01/2012 13:46:13
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larry8200

USA
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Posted - 07/01/2012 :  18:11:41  Show Profile  Visit larry8200's Homepage Send larry8200 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey Jon, Nice job. You have reminded me my "project" for last week was setting up my weedcutter on my "new" 3212H which didn't get done.

I am using my 7016-6 strictly for roto-tilling and it barely works the tractor. So it doesn't have a heat issue. I have had for certain heat issues with my 7013S when mowing heavy grass in the summer heat.

Sorry to see you still having trouble with your 6 speed. I have a nice straight hood from a 3314H minus lights you can have for $10 plus S&H. email if interested.

Edit: I dont think you can solve the problem re routing the exhaust. There is a very strong airflow coming out of the front of the engine, especially around the exhaust valve. The 7000 series headlights do obstruct this flow and is bound to cause problems in hot weather when working the machine for longer periods of time...


Edited by - larry8200 on 07/01/2012 18:17:49
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Count Macula

USA
248 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2012 :  20:28:04  Show Profile Send Count Macula a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Small engine mufflers can run between 500 and 700 degrees centigrade. You would think that routing something that hot out from under the hood, would help with temperatures? Especially if it is as confided and as restricted as its being stated. You guys would definitely know better, I'm still new to these machines and their specific quirks.
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