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1014211

USA
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Posted - 07/09/2011 :  09:22:41  Show Profile  Visit 1014211's Homepage Send 1014211 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I love watching you guys restore the tractors, taking them from what some would call junk to original condition. Even though it wasn't a restore job, and it certainly isn't a GT, we repainted my dad's Case steam tractor a couple years ago so I thought I'de share a few pics. i think this was right at the limit of our capabilities. My dad's John Deere could not lift the rear wheels, but when my brother and I pushed up on the loader arms it would go up, and then was able to hold it. It was a balancing act. But my brother especially put a lot of time into hammer drilling that cast iron, and it looks great now.

The engine in 2004:




The after:





The process:

























Jon

oldron

USA
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Posted - 07/09/2011 :  10:07:40  Show Profile Send oldron a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What a project,thanks for sharing.
Ron

'Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain!'
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larry8200

USA
3166 Posts

Posted - 07/09/2011 :  10:44:54  Show Profile  Visit larry8200's Homepage Send larry8200 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You guys sure have some neat antique machines, thanks for the pics. I built a working double action reiprocating engine in High School. Been a cool converation piece ever since.




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Cvans

USA
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Posted - 07/09/2011 :  14:14:49  Show Profile Send Cvans a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's impressive Jon. Turned out great.



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B-16_IC

USA
2823 Posts

Posted - 07/09/2011 :  20:55:15  Show Profile  Visit B-16_IC's Homepage Send B-16_IC a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nice job Jon! always good to see the past preserved! Someday I will do a repaint on my Case tractors, but they are 31 yrs. newer and have a start button!

How strict are the steam rules in your state? That stuff is regulated pretty tight anymore.

Life is all about paying. Pay attention, or pay the consequences, the choice is yours. Rich
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1014211

USA
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Posted - 07/10/2011 :  08:58:57  Show Profile  Visit 1014211's Homepage Send 1014211 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would call the rules tight, but the enforcement not. I'll explain, all engines must be state inspected and approved, they being tested with cold water at 1.5x your safety valve rating. So my family's engines have to hold pressure at 225psi without leakes. Very minor dribbles are ok because the inspector knows with the hot water everything expands and seals up. He also inspects for bad welds and such. That's the strict part. The inspector however has never been to a show that I know of, so if someone fired one up that hadn't been inspected no one would probably ever know. However, the steam community is pretty small and the guys self monitor things because, afterall, they don't want an accident either.

Jon
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skunkhome

USA
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Posted - 07/10/2011 :  09:13:01  Show Profile Send skunkhome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Everything on the engine ie so large...scary large...even the front wheels are massive. It is not a place where you want to hear "oops!"

Phil



"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty."

Benjamin Franklin
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ByronC

USA
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Posted - 07/10/2011 :  11:42:11  Show Profile Send ByronC a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jon,
My step dad had three 65HP Case Steam Traction Engines. What HP is yours? It looks to be at least 40 and maybe up to a 65. Hard to tell from pics..

This pic of my Step Dad's Case 65HP was taken in the early 70's.


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B112

USA
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Posted - 07/10/2011 :  11:58:29  Show Profile  Visit B112's Homepage Send B112 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And I thought my boat was a project! Nice job.


Michael
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Talntedmrgreen

USA
4110 Posts

Posted - 07/10/2011 :  12:13:29  Show Profile  Visit Talntedmrgreen's Homepage Send Talntedmrgreen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow...nice job! I cannot imagine what that thing must weigh! How do you transport it to shows? Ive heard they need to be inspected by the state...whats involved in that?

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1014211

USA
2317 Posts

Posted - 07/10/2011 :  14:15:39  Show Profile  Visit 1014211's Homepage Send 1014211 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Byron, right you are, its a 65hp. I love that photo of yours. My brother has a 20hp Advance Universal which is comparable. transportation is by semi only. roughly 15 tons dry. the state just cold pressure tests them 150% their running pressure. ours runs at 150psi so there must be no leaks at 225psi. this must be done every 3 years. also, they look for non-approved welds and general boiler warning flags. i love how everything is large, the rear wheels are nearly 1 ton apiece. we had to take everything slow and extra cautious as Phil said, we couldn't afford an 'oops'...

Jon
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Talntedmrgreen

USA
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Posted - 07/10/2011 :  15:07:42  Show Profile  Visit Talntedmrgreen's Homepage Send Talntedmrgreen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow, really amazing! Im hoping to see it in person! ;)

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midnightpumpkin

USA
888 Posts

Posted - 07/10/2011 :  16:05:26  Show Profile Send midnightpumpkin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here's a link to an article on a tragic steam traction engine explosion that happened at the Medina County fairgrounds 10 years ago. Not far from where I live.

http://www.farmcollector.com/steam-engines/tragedy-at-medina-county-fairgrounds.aspx

I love to watch them operate, but I treat them with utmost respect when I am at a show where they are operating.

John U
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1014211

USA
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Posted - 07/10/2011 :  18:13:29  Show Profile  Visit 1014211's Homepage Send 1014211 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I remember that event. Some of the guys in our club knew him. I think alot of that accident was his stubborness, he knew he was low on water but just wanted to get the engine to the grounds. That being said, these engines obviously demand a great deal of care and respect.

Jon
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B-16_IC

USA
2823 Posts

Posted - 07/10/2011 :  22:42:10  Show Profile  Visit B-16_IC's Homepage Send B-16_IC a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Steam people are some of the most cautious and crafty people at a show, they have to be! I've seen some scary pics of explosion aftermaths from back in there hayday, I'm sure it's images like that that keep steam people vigilant. I've been thinking I should go up to the Mt. Pleasant Iowa show this year again, haven't been for years lot's of steam there!
http://www.oldthreshers.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=page.calendar

Life is all about paying. Pay attention, or pay the consequences, the choice is yours. Rich
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ASEguy

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Posted - 07/16/2011 :  07:33:30  Show Profile  Visit ASEguy's Homepage Send ASEguy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nice steam engine. Enjoyed the pics. I went to a thresherman's show Thursday in Rosebud, MO on Thursday and saw several steam tractors. A lot of them had covers. They are very large pieces of farm history. One gentleman there said he saw three hooked to a 55 bottom plow and they pulled the plow.

Gerard
1967 Allis B-110
1948 Allis model C
1949 Ford 8N (gift)
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