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Falky

Canada
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Posted - 02/22/2011 :  12:53:57  Show Profile  Visit Falky's Homepage Send Falky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My 416 is not charging and I would like suggestions as to how to look for the problem without having to take out the motor. It will have to be a warmer day than today at -10. Any and all suggestions are much appreciated thank you guys. David.

olcowhand

USA
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Posted - 02/22/2011 :  15:31:51  Show Profile  Visit olcowhand's Homepage Send olcowhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OK...unplug the stator wires coming from the engine to thee regulator. Take a volt meter set to AC, and with engine running full throttle put the tester leads to the 2 stator wires from engine. They should put out 24 to 32VAC. If not, stator is bad & engine will have to be pulled to replace. If proper AC is there, then plug stator wires back to the regulator, then check to be SURE the regulator is grounded well, as it must be grounded to function. Undo the wire from the regulator that goes to the battery. Run the engine & put your meter set to DC & test between the B terminal on the regulator directly to the battery + terminal. If ground is good & still not getting 12+VDC coming out of the regulator, then regulator is likely defective. If it tests good this way, but still doesn't show charge on the ammeter, then the ammeter is bad, or some other bad connection somewhere between regulator & the battery.

Daniel in Ky -- So much to do, so little time!





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sammiefish

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Posted - 02/22/2011 :  15:36:25  Show Profile  Visit sammiefish's Homepage Send sammiefish a Private Message  Reply with Quote
well, when you say not charging... do you mean the battery keeps being dead when you go to start it..
first... check voltage at battery terminals when running, should be 14 or so...12 or so when not running
if not,check voltage at stator leads... should be 28 V AC or so if you do have this you are in luck..
its probably not the stator and you wont have to pull the flywheel.

my guess is that you probably have bad connections to the regulator from the stator or from regulator to batt or
in the key switch.. .
I would just pull the connections at the regulator , clean the blades on the regulator and clean or replace the blade connectors, pull them and clean them....
if these are not the issue it may be regulator but at least that is not mounted under the flywheel... : )

Chris 3/4's : )
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sammiefish

USA
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Posted - 02/22/2011 :  15:37:55  Show Profile  Visit sammiefish's Homepage Send sammiefish a Private Message  Reply with Quote
awww Daniel... you beat me to it!!

Chris 3/4's : )
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olcowhand

USA
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Posted - 02/22/2011 :  15:39:17  Show Profile  Visit olcowhand's Homepage Send olcowhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sammiefish

awww Daniel... you beat me to it!!




Daniel in Ky -- So much to do, so little time!




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oldsarge

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Posted - 02/22/2011 :  18:49:28  Show Profile  Visit oldsarge's Homepage Send oldsarge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Falky; Yeah,what they said.
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Falky

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Posted - 02/22/2011 :  19:28:39  Show Profile  Visit Falky's Homepage Send Falky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks guys I'll give it a try as soon as the weather turns warmer, not long to wait according to the weatherman
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Falky

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Posted - 07/30/2011 :  23:46:07  Show Profile  Visit Falky's Homepage Send Falky a Private Message  Reply with Quote




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I have gone through the wiring system as prescribed by Dan thank you I found a badly burnt push on connector on the back of the ignition switch. I have purchased a new ignition switch and my question is Where does the b+ wire from the regulator attach on the back of the new ignition switch.I have attached all of the other wires thanks guys.



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olcowhand

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Posted - 07/30/2011 :  23:53:01  Show Profile  Visit olcowhand's Homepage Send olcowhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Put it to the "ACC" pole. If you put it on the ignition pole, then it will keep running, as the charge circuit will keep the ignition fed. When put to "ACC", when the key is turned off, all circuits are separated. Looks like you must be using a universal key switch.
You could actually connect it to the battery pole, but I like to use the ACC pole in case the regulator goes bad. This way it cannot bleed the battery down if a diode goes bad.

Daniel in Ky -- So much to do, so little time!





Edited by - olcowhand on 07/31/2011 13:21:58
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Falky

Canada
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Posted - 07/31/2011 :  11:11:09  Show Profile  Visit Falky's Homepage Send Falky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you that was fast. I actually have it on ACC but I needed to be sure so that I did not do any damage.
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