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skunkhome

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Posted - 09/17/2011 :  11:09:36  Show Profile Send skunkhome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There is no room for a second fan unless I stack them.
I have been thinking of setting up a upper thermal limiter that would cut the ignition if the tempts get above an acceptable level. If the fan fails the generator would shut down. The trick is to determine what is an acceptable upper limit. Any thoughts on that?

Phil



"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty."

Benjamin Franklin

Edited by - skunkhome on 09/17/2011 11:09:57
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ByronC

USA
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Posted - 09/17/2011 :  16:13:18  Show Profile Send ByronC a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by skunkhome

There is no room for a second fan unless I stack them.
I have been thinking of setting up a upper thermal limiter that would cut the ignition if the tempts get above an acceptable level. If the fan fails the generator would shut down. The trick is to determine what is an acceptable upper limit. Any thoughts on that?



"Proper engine coolant and a pressurized coolant system can help obviate the problems which make plain water incompatible with automotive engines. With proper antifreeze a wide temperature range can be tolerated by the engine coolant, such as #8722;34 °F (#8722;37 °C) to +265 °F (129 °C) for 50% (by volume) propylene glycol diluted with water and a 15 psi pressurized coolant system."

Now, thats a water cooled engine. If I were wanting to monitor an air cooled engine's temp, I'd make 230 degrees my upper limit. Maybe even a bit less...

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skunkhome

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Posted - 09/17/2011 :  16:27:43  Show Profile Send skunkhome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Now, thats a water cooled engine. If I were wanting to monitor an air cooled engine's temp, I'd make 230 degrees my upper limit. Maybe even a bit less..."

Where would that temp be measured?

Phil



"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty."

Benjamin Franklin
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wlewis379

USA
402 Posts

Posted - 09/17/2011 :  20:36:19  Show Profile Send wlewis379 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am still waiting for my carburetor repair kit for my generator. So I have been researching generator enclosures. I have come up with the same links as Michael and have come to the conclusion that I am going to build my on enclosure. I have found a plan for a wooden storage and trash bin that can be modified to house a generator. Its pretty much the same thing that Phil has done. I am going to raise it up off the ground so I will not have to get down to start it, since mine is a pull start. I am also going to vent the exhaust out the side of the enclosure via a vent tube. This should help keep the temperature down inside the box along with the vent fan. Might even put a light in there. Looking good Phil. Here is the link for the storage bin.

http://www.archchemicals.com/Fed/WOLW/Docs/BuildingPlans/Backyard/Storage___trash_can_bin.pdf

http://www.ronhazelton.com/projects/how_to_build_an_outdoor_garbage_enclosure

http://www.gen-tran.com/eshop/genshed-shelter.asp

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Edited by - wlewis379 on 09/17/2011 20:38:34
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ByronC

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Posted - 09/18/2011 :  12:24:44  Show Profile Send ByronC a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by skunkhome

"Now, thats a water cooled engine. If I were wanting to monitor an air cooled engine's temp, I'd make 230 degrees my upper limit. Maybe even a bit less..."

Where would that temp be measured?



If you find a suitable temp sensor, I would locate it near the cylinder head's exhausted fan air. Your favorite Tractors have a sensor attached the the head... Deutz-Allis... lol

Byron---Allis-Chalmers

The Few, The Proud, The Orange.
918H Agco-Allis, and a 928D Grasshopper Diesel.
D-21 Allis-Chalmers
Allis-Chalmers Tech for 7 years.
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skunkhome

USA
12827 Posts

Posted - 09/18/2011 :  14:37:19  Show Profile Send skunkhome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ByronC


Your favorite Tractors have a sensor attached the the head... Deutz-Allis... lol

Really?! What models. Mat be I can pick up one off eBay.

Phil



"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty."

Benjamin Franklin
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skunkhome

USA
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Posted - 09/18/2011 :  14:42:49  Show Profile Send skunkhome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wonder who makes a normal open, adjustable thermal switch.

Phil



"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty."

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