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B-16_IC
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 Posted - 08/08/2012 : 19:52:10
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I am hoping this is not a mystery to someone here. I aquired this cultivator from a walk-behind collecting friend of mine. He had tried to attach it to a walker and found the hitch irons to be too short, the beam hit the tires. After some thinking he thought it must be for a rider and I should own it. I traded the better part of a planter for it that he wanted and we both are happy! The hitch irons that extend from the main beam are 4" shorter than the walk-behind cultivator pictured next to it. The wheels look identical to the original wheels that I have on others but have no name cast into the tires. Also notice the extra bar welded onto the rear beam the tools hang on, looks totally factory to me. Paint is white, not sure it is original though. The adjustment screw was missing when he got it, he got one from me and attached it facing rear like a walker that's why it's that way. Any ideas?
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Life is all about paying. Pay attention, or pay the consequences, the choice is yours. Rich |
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Talntedmrgreen
USA
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Posted - 08/09/2012 : 05:36:53
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| Rich, I've seen that variation of the rear toolbar, and thought it to be an earlier Simplicity cultivator. I have had two with no 'Port Washington' on the wheels now, and one of those had solid wheels vs the wheels with 3 holes. I do think the hitch has been cut off. I've never seen any brand that short, and the 990209 cultivator had the same length hitch as the walk behind versions. It would be awful close to a rider's rear, and with the jackscrew flipped forward, would probably have difficulty lifting. Nice shape though! |
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Homesteader
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Posted - 08/09/2012 : 16:00:13
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If you'll look up the different models of the cultivators, I think you'll see the difference in the length of the hitches. The white one is missing the drawbar end assembly, which adds more length.
The older 6-shovel cultivator #5331 and the #990021 cultivator had longer hitch bars, like the orange one you have. The #990205 and #990209 had the shorter hitch bars, like your white one.
Here's the link to a manual that shows the #5331 cultivator (starting on page 6):
http://bsintek.basco.com/BriggsDocumentDisplay/default.aspx?filename=heCyEN8cvI6rE3CSl5kbp796Dq
The other cultivator manuals can be looked up at the Simplicity manuals site.
As for the rear toolbar on the white one, I would think that is a later mod by Simplicity to add strength, since the rear is carrying more tools and is usually bent first.
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Talntedmrgreen
USA
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Posted - 08/09/2012 : 19:52:29
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| Intersting...any idea when they stopped making the 209? I figured once the 398 appeared, they sleeve hitch variety became obsolete, but perhaps they did offer it later? |
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B-16_IC
USA
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Posted - 08/09/2012 : 22:00:13
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| Thanks guys, never seen the reinforced toolbar before myself. Thanks for the link Greg, and yes the length difference I was referring to is in the welded on pieces themselves. One thing is for sure about this stuff is there is always more to learn and if you think you have it figured something new pops up.! |
Life is all about paying. Pay attention, or pay the consequences, the choice is yours. Rich |
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Homesteader
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Posted - 08/10/2012 : 07:06:28
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| Josh, I really have no idea when they stopped making the 209 and was only speculating that they could have added the mod to it in late production. I may be all wrong about the mod to the rear toolbar. |
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B-16_IC
USA
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Posted - 08/16/2012 : 21:51:53
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I took time away from other projects to see how this all looked on a tractor. I borrowed a clevis from another cultivator for the white one and pinned them on. Josh, you were right about the crank hitting if flipped forward, it hits the lift link and becomes useless. However, the forward hole it doesn't use when flipped back lends itself perfectly for the lift chain. The orange one hangs back too far for the lift chain to pin to any factory hole, I must be missing something there. Anyway, I'm thinking the white one needs to turn yellow sometime in the future! The crank facing rearward is fine by me, I doubt it needs moved often.
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Talntedmrgreen
USA
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Posted - 08/17/2012 : 07:43:12
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Rich, here's a pic of the OEM setup. The lift chain goes to '8', so it just looks like your cultivator was adjusted/setup a bit differently.
Mine is the older type with the longer hitch...it has factory holes that allow the chain to pull directly updward. It works well, and gives lots of lift
I found that I do adjsut mine on the fly, quite a bit. This type cultivator is extremely effective, and will stop a tractor if allowed enough depth. When taking the first few test runs, I kept my gauge wheels high and didn't fiddle with the lift. I adjusted things with the jackscrew by feel and by watching the results, then dropped the gauge wheels to level with the soil, once I hit that sweet spot. They help maintain consistent cultivation, when hitting uneven spots, etc, and I just leave the lift on 'float'.
That is a nice peice of equipment, and yellow would look real good!  |
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B-16_IC
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Posted - 08/22/2012 : 12:18:22
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| Thanks for the pics Josh, I see now what's supposed to be! |
Life is all about paying. Pay attention, or pay the consequences, the choice is yours. Rich |
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mikemeehan
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Posted - 12/26/2012 : 11:31:57
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| Good day, all. Are the cultivators in the pictures above intended to straddle the crop row? Or is it small enough to run between the rows (admittedly, the rows would have to be a little ways apart, I know, but...)? I can't tell by the pictures. Either way, are these still made? And if so, where can I acquire one? I manage what is primarily an apple orchard, but we grow a small amount of other vegetables, and I am looking for some sort of cultivating attachment for a small simplicity to help with the weed control. Thanks! Mike |
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Talntedmrgreen
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Posted - 12/26/2012 : 16:19:24
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Mike, they are avialble, second hand only. They are fairly common, and can be set to straddle the rows, or run between them. I choose the latter. The tractor will be your widest component, if running between rows. I like the oldest machine I have, a '59 Wonderboy 700, as it has narrower tires (6x12) and a bit tinier wheel base.
I got rambunctious once, and took out a row of 3" corn when cultivating with one of my other machines, and larger AG's. |
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mikemeehan
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Posted - 12/27/2012 : 08:05:48
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Thanks for the reply. Any tips on the best place to go (internet or otherwise) to pick up a second hand one? Also, what model should I be looking for? I would like to use it like you do, in between the rows, and would like it to be, as you said, narrower than the tractor. So, probably the smaller the better. Thanks again for the help.
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Talntedmrgreen
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Cultivator mystery
