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larry8200
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 Posted - 05/14/2012 : 21:48:15
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Is this the Simplicity tractor briefly made in Cananda? I may have to go back for a better look. Cant make out the nuymber!
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oldron
USA
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Posted - 05/14/2012 : 22:01:05
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Looks like a Allis G.
This a 1952 for sale some where in New York
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skunkhome
USA
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Posted - 05/14/2012 : 22:26:43
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| If it is the G it was made in Alabama. There were some made under license from AC that look very much the same but the fenders were more squared off and had air cooled engines. The original G had a 4 cyl contentinal that turned out a whopping 9.5 horsepower. They were great tractors for truck farms but they sold so poorly that they were rammed down dealer's throats. I think the dealers in the early fifties had to buy a G to be able to take delivery on a WD45. It is reported that there are still some out there that are still in the shipping crates. Simplicities was known as the G II and I think are extremely rare. |
  Phil
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larry8200
USA
3166 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2012 : 22:57:40
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Originally posted by oldron
Looks like a Allis G.
I got a glimpse in passing, and managed to get a picture the second time by. That certainly looks to be the same tractor. This one is setting next to state route 13 in Lansing NY. Just North of Ithaca
This is the whole picture. I was lucky to have got a usable piece out of it....
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skunkhome
USA
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Posted - 05/15/2012 : 00:19:07
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| What are they asking for it. BTW the steering wheel is up side down. |
Phil
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty."
Benjamin Franklin |
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larry8200
USA
3166 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2012 : 07:58:10
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Originally posted by skunkhome
What are they asking for it. BTW the steering wheel is up side down.
I dont have any information but the picture. I was hoping to pul;l the phone number off the pic but couldn't.
I looked on CL Ithaca and found this listing for $4900. Looks nice but expensive.
Allis Chalmers model G - $4900 (Ithaca)
http://ithaca.craigslist.org/grd/2978307790.html |
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skunkhome
USA
12827 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2012 : 08:04:04
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| I have found that most of the "G's" command quite a price. Usually twice the price of the highly successful B, C or CA. I would love to have one but they are always priced out of my league. |
Phil
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty."
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larry8200
USA
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Posted - 05/15/2012 : 08:25:19
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Originally posted by skunkhome
I have found that most of the "G's" command quite a price. Usually twice the price of the highly successful B, C or CA. I would love to have one but they are always priced out of my league.
This one is way out of my price range. I could never justify nearly 5K for one.
They are a neat old tractor though. There is an article on the "G" on Wikipedia. Here is a picture from there showing the Continental N62 engine. Must get good traction, the article says it was rated for 10 drawbar horsepower.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allis_chalmers_g
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SimplicitySwede
USA
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Posted - 05/15/2012 : 08:43:49
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| There goofy and one of the most useless tractors made. they would be good for a garden i guess. but you can walk up to the front of em and pick the front end off the ground |
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Talntedmrgreen
USA
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Posted - 05/15/2012 : 09:45:00
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I've always thought they were pretty neat. They are a staple at almost any show, and I've seen some interesting attachment setups on them. As Phil says, they are always pricey.
Just West of me where there is a lot of greenhouses,, I've seen numerous G's in use. I'm not sure what they do with them, but they run them in and out of the huts. Must be their small size and high-crop like configuration makes them handy in the houses. |
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cschmidt62
USA
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Posted - 05/15/2012 : 10:46:41
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| I have been told over the years by my dad and grandpa that these were built for the small produce farms of their time. Bigger than a garden tractor, smaller than even the small tractors of their time. If I remember right most all of the attachments were mid-mount which would seam to be highly visiable, especialy when cultivationg. |
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ByronC
USA
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Posted - 05/17/2012 : 20:36:14
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Originally posted by SimplicitySwede
There goofy and one of the most useless tractors made. they would be good for a garden i guess. but you can walk up to the front of em and pick the front end off the ground
How little you know about the "G" Allis...
Simply the best cultivating tractor ever made. And there were a multitude of attachments for it. Belly mower etc. |
Byron---Allis-Chalmers
The Few, The Proud, The Orange.
918H Agco-Allis, and a 928D Grasshopper Diesel.
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B-16_IC
USA
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Posted - 05/17/2012 : 22:19:09
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| Had an old friend that mowed his yard with one for many years, he called his Grasshopper. They are a good belly mower tractor, great visability. |
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skunkhome
USA
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Posted - 05/17/2012 : 23:11:40
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Originally posted by SimplicitySwede
There goofy and one of the most useless tractors made. they would be good for a garden i guess. but you can walk up to the front of em and pick the front end off the ground
Actually it is a great design for small operations. Yes they are light up front but the tractor is designed to carry all the impliments except the rear cultivator slung under the "belly". There is/was front counterweight available but the plow and heavy ground engaging impliments actually increased the weight on the front axle the harder they worked. Ergonomically it is far better than a small tractor where you have to look over your shoulder to see what the impliments are doing. The health of sales was directly tied to the health of the truckfarm industry which was already in decline after WWII due to high speed freight and refrigeration. |
Phil
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty."
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Jed2155
USA
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Posted - 05/18/2012 : 15:07:53
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| Dont know about the other attachments but I saw one at a show on plow day and was amazed at the way it turned the sod. The skinny wheels must pull pretty good. I couldn't see how big that plow was maybe a 12" or so but it did the job. |
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larry8200
USA
3166 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2012 : 13:40:54
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Looks to me that with the center cultivators you can see while working, and its ability to straddle rows over taller plants, if you could find one with all the attachments it would be perfect (and cool!) for a larger vegetable garden.
And 10hp at the drawbar in the 50's probably pull as much as a 30 horse Compact Utility Tractor with a 3 cylinder diesel today, and built better.
If i found a deal on one I'd go for it! |
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Edited by - larry8200 on 05/19/2012 13:43:34 |
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