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ATF

USA
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Posted - 09/06/2010 :  23:38:53  Show Profile  Visit ATF's Homepage Send ATF a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've gotten 8 or 9 tractors from Kansas, all 3of my Allis/Simplicity tractors, 2 Cub Cadets, and 4 Massey's, this one is perplexing me, I may just fix it up too






Gray

Canada
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Posted - 09/08/2010 :  01:44:13  Show Profile  Visit Gray's Homepage Send Gray a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Perplexing? How? Is this the one you said was stored outside and dirty?

Careful, Mike; you might have a "talker" there. My 716 looked kinda ugly for a while; now, he looks good. I think he's getting used to me. He used to talk this kinda dark language; but I don't hear that anymore. Lately, I have been leaving him outside on nice nights; it's too crazy in the garage shuffling him and the other stuff. Once he had a light shower. Tonight I garaged him just ahead of a thunderstorm. I think he's finally settling in, and we are getting used to each other. He likes playing in the woods on the trails he made, and with his new trailer.

Did the early ones comes with white decks? I thought they were orange. There's 2 tractors pictured here with white decks. Repaints? From other tractors?

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ATF

USA
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Posted - 09/08/2010 :  04:31:56  Show Profile  Visit ATF's Homepage Send ATF a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't know for sure, a lot of people say no, but my other early model 716H came with a white deck that I believe to be original, the actual Allis brochure shows these early 716H with a white deck so I'd say that's the best indication that, YES they did.

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AC716H

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Posted - 11/11/2010 :  12:03:33  Show Profile  Visit AC716H's Homepage Send AC716H a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They came with white decks. Seems crazy to me as that's the worst color I can think of for something that drags on the ground and gets crud all over it.

That said, I have a spare 48" deck (orig. white) that I plan to strip and restore next spring, in the original white. Might install it on the show tractor.
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skunkhome

USA
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Posted - 11/11/2010 :  14:37:07  Show Profile Send skunkhome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
when they are clean the white/cream decks look sharp

Phil



"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty."

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Cvans

USA
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Posted - 11/11/2010 :  16:46:24  Show Profile Send Cvans a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That also looks like the shallow deck that I have. I am ready to be corrected here but it seems at one point the Allis's came with shallow decks and simplicity stayed with the deeper decks. Mine is orange and is the 3 blade 42". The tractor itself was destroyed in an accident and I purchased the blower,tiller and deck so I'm not certain which model it was. I do know it was comparable to the Sovereign, Barron group of tractors. Similar to the 3414's. Interestingly they seem to still mow very nicely. Much better than my Bolens.


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ATF

USA
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Posted - 11/11/2010 :  19:26:44  Show Profile  Visit ATF's Homepage Send ATF a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cvans

That also looks like the shallow deck that I have. I am ready to be corrected here but it seems at one point the Allis's came with shallow decks and simplicity stayed with the deeper decks. Mine is orange and is the 3 blade 42". The tractor itself was destroyed in an accident and I purchased the blower,tiller and deck so I'm not certain which model it was. I do know it was comparable to the Sovereign, Barron group of tractors. Similar to the 3414's. Interestingly they seem to still mow very nicely. Much better than my Bolens.


It's just the angle of the picture/camera, it's the same as my 42 inch deck, I do think they got shallower later on with the 6200 series.

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skunkhome

USA
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Posted - 11/11/2010 :  22:35:33  Show Profile Send skunkhome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The 300 and 400 series R"H discharge decks were quite shallow but still seemed to work fine.

Phil



"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty."

Benjamin Franklin
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