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| B112 |
Posted - 10/21/2007 : 06:40:40
One of the reasons I felt the need to develop a Buying/Pricing Guidelines was that when I noticed many people asking the question "what's it worth". If you listened to the people who answered many of those questions, you might get the idea that people didn't want to give people any idea what something was worth. If anything, they scoffed and ridiculed those people asking. Calling them stupid and such. I started the price guideline based on my experience watching eBay and I hope it's qualified that way. It was developed to help the new guy not be prey. Further, it helps the hobby by bringing some validity to collecting and keeping the value of items which are collected.
Further, I noticed some people scoffed at the idea of making a price guideline because they felt it would hurt their sales. To me that further indicated people wished to take advantage of others.
Does the price guidelines help you? Thoughts?
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| B112 |
Posted - 01/24/2008 : 16:58:41
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Originally posted by skunkhome
little annoyed with folks jumping in on the first post with "whats it worth?"..... need for a pricing guide so the hobbyist don't get taken
I can relate to the "annoyed" part, though I came to the understanding that everyone has different motivations, interests and understandings of respect. So after hearing people (some were newer folks) asking about making price guides, I figured that could only help such concerns. The initial guide is still a swag of what I've seen. So overtime, I need to figure out how to get a sample of what others have seen into the guide also.
Thank you for all the replies to this post! It's been helpful. |
| skunkhome |
Posted - 01/24/2008 : 15:34:52
although I don't believe in blowing anyone off I guess I am one of those that get a little annoyed with folks jumping in on the first post with "whats it worth?". As true hobbyist all of us know that we often spend much more in the long run restoring and maintaining these old machines than they actually are worth. I really have not put much into my tractor but know that I could not break even if I decided to sell. It is kinda like me inviting someone into my house to view my original Picasso, and rather than their marveling at the work of art, they want to know "whats it worth?". It would appear they have little appreciation for what they see. I think the same is true of these old tractors. That said, I can see a definite need for a pricing guide so the hobbyists don't get taken and also some kind of serial number and model number references. The latter I have been working on and hope to develop some more in serial number referencing though that is going to be a tall order. Hopefully with the cooperation of our members I can get a sampling of serial numbers across a wide range of models and start fleshing out a list using the numbers as brackets. |
| ZippoVarga |
Posted - 01/24/2008 : 13:53:24
All similar, all fairly complete and ALL Sold for $202.50 +/- .01Cent.
There are many surprising factors to what something sells for and I thought this was an excellent example of how easy it is to find an item/tractors worth. |
| ZippoVarga |
Posted - 01/24/2008 : 13:49:01
I have spent most of today searching Ebay for completed auctions on the more desired items like, whole tractors of the early round hood vintage (1964-1968), along with headlights, tail lights, hydro lifts, weights and so on. What I have compiled in the couple hours I have been searching is a fairly reasonable list to start off with. The one thing that stood out amongst the lot is the consistency of the hydro lift group prices. I found three complete units and ALL three were within one cent....yes..i said ONE CENT of the others. That's a pretty firm guideline if you ask me.
Some of the other variables are the descriptions of the items for sale on ebay. Some are well described, others were WAY off base. This too shows the variables in any purchase or guideline. I personally have been given countless riders over the years for free. I do not consider these in my average cumulative out of pocket cost for the types of tractors I collect. Although I have gotten 5 free Simplicities, they all have needed some sort of out of pocket repairs. The variables are endless when it comes to pricing "what it's worth". Bottom line is...it's worth what YOU are willing to pay. I am patient. I wait for and watch for the deals I believe are within my means. Others may think......I GOTTA HAVE IT!! Then they pay three times what another is willing to pay. Like I said...a near infinate number of variables. The idea to present a guide for new collectors and old alike is a good idea to help put a base line out there. But this does not mean that the guy next door will pay more or less. It just means the guy next door will know what others were willing to pay.
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| jac |
Posted - 11/17/2007 : 09:37:07
I agree with a price guideline, but with fuel priced where it's at limits the distance I'll travel. I have a 370 weedeater and couldn't find anyone to give me an idea of it's worth until I found this site.
Jack |
| fuslit |
Posted - 11/17/2007 : 09:05:27
(haven't posted in a bit, sorry have been in the middle of a major car project)
I think guide lines are good, perhaps something to indicate 'rareness' so people understand why it may be priced higher than they think it should be?
Also, Obviously because what people will be buying is used it would help to base value on how heavily used. So, maybe a sliding scale of value based on condition similar to kelly blue book?
my 2 cents
-Todd |
| B112 |
Posted - 10/25/2007 : 01:23:59
Thank you for the replies. I may take a more technical approach and use eBay as a measure of pricing updates periodically. For now, it sounds like what I compiled does help. |
| Simple700 |
Posted - 10/22/2007 : 06:52:49
I think the guidelines are good. Sometimes it even keeps me in check when I really want to buy something, I get my heart set on buying something and really want it. That way I don't get taken advantage of, or on the the other hand, when I want to sell something, it helps me set a fair prices to everyone. The hard thing about a guideline is that there are so many variables. With any older machine, they are all in different conditions and I would imagine that they would get a different price in different parts of the country. All in all, the guidleines are good but will probably need an update every year or so. |
| olcowhand |
Posted - 10/21/2007 : 14:35:44
Maybe we could post pics of tractors along with price they brought at sale, but leave out names? That would give a visual idea as to worth. Without a visual, it's hard to put a price on anything. |
| simplelife |
Posted - 10/21/2007 : 13:32:30
The key is that they are guidelines. We all want to find that sweet deal where the owner says just get it out of my sight, but in reality those are few and far between.
When you see a B212 listed at $1500 and another at $75 you know there is something different, but there are pricing guidelines for nearly everything else.
If we have a way of listing selling prices, after awhile a little statistical figuring will give you a good average price. I think they are helpful, especially in light of the pricing of new equipment.I don not hesitate to post prices I pay, but I know there are some who bought much cheaper, while others say I got a steal. Let's help each other and those new to our "hobby" with some guidelines, noting they are not gospel, but this is the current trend. |
| Richard L. |
Posted - 10/21/2007 : 09:36:05
I think it's an excellent idea. I know it's a pain and it's one of the first things anybody asks about other than, "What year was my tractor built" questions. |
