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| ASEguy |
Posted - 07/20/2011 : 21:24:00
Hello everyone, Last fall I posted pics of my 67 B-110. I paid $200.00 for the non running tractor. I decided to do a complete restoration to ready myself to do my larger Allis model C. All yellow and cream metal surfaces were cleaned using electrolysis then Picklex 20 was applied to store the parts without rusting. I did a final acid wash then used DX-330 to clean prior to painting. I also used epoxy primer in white which is a two part primer which, after it is mixed, must sit for 15 minutes prior to application. I am not a painter so I practiced on the large unseen area's first. ` Painting was done in three batches of parts. I used PPG omni MAE code 3274 (yellow) which I was told was a prophet formula meaning someone brought a part in and it was scanned to get the closest match. The wheels were done in Allis Cream (beige) which was in their system as code #23056. I had to buy a new brake band and throttle cable. Welding was done on a tightening up basis except for the front grill which broke off on the L/S and presented quite a challange because I am not a welder. I put new rings in and honed the cylinder which was surprisingly true to diameter after so many years. I also rebuilt the carb. All engine parts were obtained through smallenginepartswarehouse.com or sepw. I got that website here. Today I rolled it outside, made all the initial adjustments on the carb and it fired right off! I will do the final adjustments tomorrow and start using her for mowing and lawn sweeping. I got an ingersol lawn sweeper from craigslist. I probably have $600 to $700 total for my tractor and the parts not to mention a LOT of hours doing the work. Best advice I can give is take lots of pictures during every step. I don't want to make this post too long, but if you have questions ask. Hope you enjoy the picture no matter how small. Gerard
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| ASEguy |
Posted - 07/21/2011 : 13:50:05
Speedy, I got the color codes from simpletractors.com. The color is very close to what you see except for the wheels which look whiter than they are. I wanted mine to be correct for the period. I will work mine and I want to add a light kit to it this winter to look close to factory and add a rear light as well. I'm really pleased with the grill. At first I wanted to do the badging in traditional black and orange. My wife and daughter felt it would look better polished aluminum, and as usual they were right. Gerard |
| Speedy2222 |
Posted - 07/21/2011 : 11:43:00
electrolysis works fantastic for cleaning old metal. I like to use an acid base for cleaning in gas tanks and such also. Restoration looks good, is it the pictures or is it somewhat light in color? |
| Talntedmrgreen |
Posted - 07/21/2011 : 11:00:34
Good info...I may have to inquire more when I get closer to my next project =] Thank you! You did a beautiful job. I really like the color. It looks lighter than most. Sometimes they get a little too 'mustard' for my taste. I like that powdery yellow for sure! |
| ASEguy |
Posted - 07/21/2011 : 10:05:56
Josh, Thanks for posting the link. I can't do that either. I'm virtually all thumbs on a computer. The only other prep I did was to sand with 180 grit sandpaper for the epoxy primer to adhere to. Electrolysis takes time and patience. The process worked for me because I could steal a little time here and there to do more parts. Also I forgot to tell you if your amperage goes down on your charger, turn it off, disconnect the battery to stop the process, then wire brush the sacrificial metal because it gets lumpy quickly and will drop off in it's effectiveness. Gerard |
| Talntedmrgreen |
Posted - 07/21/2011 : 09:00:45
Gerard's restoration on yesterdaystractors.com...
http://www.ytmag.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=pbwork&th=22723 |
| Talntedmrgreen |
Posted - 07/21/2011 : 08:59:04
Sounds very itneresting. I think I have the idea. Sounds cheaper than sandblasting =] Is any further prep, other than drying, needed before primer? On my next redo, I plan to move swiftly..might even take a day off work to blast through my prep, priming and first coats of paint. I think if I completely dedicate 12 hours of labor, I could really knock out a lot of work. My last one took me months...that's the agonizing part.
I'll go take a peek at your post, and grab a link for this thread. |
| ASEguy |
Posted - 07/21/2011 : 07:56:02
I had to have my 21 year old son help me post the one that is there. To see some full size pictures go to yesterdaystractors.com and go to the paint and bodywork forum and you will see two more there. One is of the front of the tractor which I think turned out beautiful. It really did. I can't get my pics to post here. It's worth the trip over there.
Josh, The cleaning method electrolysis is just water and bicarbonate of soda found in the pool section at W/M. While I was there I bought the largest plastic tub they had. I filled it with water and the bicarbonate of soda and had my bath. Next the sacrificial metal is joined by wire inside the diameter of the tub. Make sure the wire doesn't get into the solution or it will corrode through. Large metal surfaces make the process work faster. I use flexplates from tranny's, old lawnmower blades discarded rebar "etc." Next, and with good metal to metal contact, lower the part you want to clean into the solution with wire and make sure it doesn't touch the sacrificial metal around the outside. Using a 12 volt battery, hook the positive to the outer sacrificial metal so it is in a loop back to the battery and hook the negative to the center metal you are cleaning. I hook up a small charger to the battery and turn it on. It usually draws about 8-10 amps. You will see immediate bubbles as the process works. This is a combustable gas being made so do it outside. After about 2 days and without your assistance the paint will easily come off and the rust will be converted into harmless black slime which can easily be wire brushed off and rinsed clean. The process is environmentally friendly and gets into all the nooks and crannies where rust loves to hide to comeback to haunt you later. Hope this helps. Gerard |
| larry8200 |
Posted - 07/20/2011 : 23:22:48
Thats A Great job and info! I've been quite surprised many times finding how true the bores remain after SERIOUS hours on the old "L" head CI Briggs. Just cant beat them.
I'd love to see more pics!!! |
| B-16_IC |
Posted - 07/20/2011 : 22:48:00
That sure does look nice! One pic is a tease though, more is a must!! |
| Talntedmrgreen |
Posted - 07/20/2011 : 21:45:37
I'd love to see any pics or a link to the process! Looks great! I'd like to hear more about your cleaning process too. What work is involved, how long does it take...is it easy to do in the garage? Stuff like that. More pics for sure!! |
