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| B112 |
Posted - 12/30/2008 : 22:10:39
I'm looking around at various Standby and backup generator projects out there.
While the "GenShed Generator Shelter" looks interesting:
http://www.gen-tran.com/eshop/10Expand.asp?ProductCode=GS7500
You might find some interesting reviews here:
http://www.amazon.com/review/product/B000Q7FDSQ
Below are some links which I am also reviewing:
http://www.generatorjoe.net/page.asp?id=60
http://www.handymanhowto.com/2007/11/14/choosing-and-installing-a-whole-house-standby-generator/
http://www.indovina.us/~mai/generator/
http://www.gen-tran.com/eshop/10Browse.asp?Category=GA
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| skunkhome |
Posted - 09/18/2011 : 14:42:49
I wonder who makes a normal open, adjustable thermal switch. |
| skunkhome |
Posted - 09/18/2011 : 14:37:19
quote:
Originally posted by ByronC
Your favorite Tractors have a sensor attached the the head... Deutz-Allis... lol
Really?! What models. Mat be I can pick up one off eBay. |
| ByronC |
Posted - 09/18/2011 : 12:24:44
quote:
Originally posted by skunkhome
"Now, thats a water cooled engine. If I were wanting to monitor an air cooled engine's temp, I'd make 230 degrees my upper limit. Maybe even a bit less..."
Where would that temp be measured?
If you find a suitable temp sensor, I would locate it near the cylinder head's exhausted fan air. Your favorite Tractors have a sensor attached the the head... Deutz-Allis... lol |
| wlewis379 |
Posted - 09/17/2011 : 20:36:19
I am still waiting for my carburetor repair kit for my generator. So I have been researching generator enclosures. I have come up with the same links as Michael and have come to the conclusion that I am going to build my on enclosure. I have found a plan for a wooden storage and trash bin that can be modified to house a generator. Its pretty much the same thing that Phil has done. I am going to raise it up off the ground so I will not have to get down to start it, since mine is a pull start. I am also going to vent the exhaust out the side of the enclosure via a vent tube. This should help keep the temperature down inside the box along with the vent fan. Might even put a light in there. Looking good Phil. Here is the link for the storage bin.
http://www.archchemicals.com/Fed/WOLW/Docs/BuildingPlans/Backyard/Storage___trash_can_bin.pdf
http://www.ronhazelton.com/projects/how_to_build_an_outdoor_garbage_enclosure
http://www.gen-tran.com/eshop/genshed-shelter.asp |
| skunkhome |
Posted - 09/17/2011 : 16:27:43
"Now, thats a water cooled engine. If I were wanting to monitor an air cooled engine's temp, I'd make 230 degrees my upper limit. Maybe even a bit less..."
Where would that temp be measured? |
| ByronC |
Posted - 09/17/2011 : 16:13:18
quote:
Originally posted by skunkhome
There is no room for a second fan unless I stack them.
I have been thinking of setting up a upper thermal limiter that would cut the ignition if the tempts get above an acceptable level. If the fan fails the generator would shut down. The trick is to determine what is an acceptable upper limit. Any thoughts on that?
"Proper engine coolant and a pressurized coolant system can help obviate the problems which make plain water incompatible with automotive engines. With proper antifreeze a wide temperature range can be tolerated by the engine coolant, such as #8722;34 °F (#8722;37 °C) to +265 °F (129 °C) for 50% (by volume) propylene glycol diluted with water and a 15 psi pressurized coolant system."
Now, thats a water cooled engine. If I were wanting to monitor an air cooled engine's temp, I'd make 230 degrees my upper limit. Maybe even a bit less... |
| skunkhome |
Posted - 09/17/2011 : 11:09:36
There is no room for a second fan unless I stack them.
I have been thinking of setting up a upper thermal limiter that would cut the ignition if the tempts get above an acceptable level. If the fan fails the generator would shut down. The trick is to determine what is an acceptable upper limit. Any thoughts on that? |
| haykarenhardy |
Posted - 09/17/2011 : 08:16:49
Phil
I think olcowhand is right, you could use another fan in your shed. If you have a indoor outdoor thermometer put the out door probe in the shed and see how hot is gets in there.
Stan |
| K1dan |
Posted - 09/15/2011 : 08:02:08
Phil, I am very concerned about the proximity to your building. I couldn't see where your exhaust discharges, but it in my opinion it is much too close. I will have mine at least 20 feet from the building and the exhaust directed away. |
| olcowhand |
Posted - 09/14/2011 : 22:45:19
I think it looks fine Phil. I might be a bit worried about the fan dying on me & not knowing in time though. Maybe having 2 fans would be the ticket. |
| skunkhome |
Posted - 09/14/2011 : 21:23:16
This is my new generator box in use. It is far from perfect but it does work and is a start.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7KDaTYIBXA |
| B112 |
Posted - 01/05/2009 : 11:37:07
I like the example Dan showed us. That example I believe they run the generator with the sides down and in the protection of the overhang roof. I have an overhang roof, but it will not provide enough protection from the elements. Nice box though. I had an electrician run a 30amp line to my garage so I can put a generator plug in the garage and a transfer switch in the basement. You'll be finding me posting a lot of safety research and installation notes on generators as I've purchased a second Generac system for my VT properties. So I have one standby generator and one emergency generator. Lots of work ahead still...
Phil, keep us in the loop on what you construct. 84 page paper? |
| skunkhome |
Posted - 01/05/2009 : 09:07:30
I have been toying with building a fence like enclosure lined with corrugated roofing or hardyboard. For you boaters it would look like a dock box. 84 page paper on storage shed? Probably has to use the ole reminder "lefty, loosey; righty, tighty" |
| jimmyj |
Posted - 01/05/2009 : 08:02:50
The small shed is great Daniel. We have a 6500watt (surge) portable unit we use a couple of times a year. I could never justify the $4000+ cost for a permanent standby unit. I think the guy in the post is very smart to keep a fire extinguisher beside the genny. I will do that too from now on.
Note: We keep the gen in the shop, about 70 feet from the house and drag it over when we need it. No shed. I think the shed in the post is great and if it was on wheels it could be towed over. |
| B112 |
Posted - 01/04/2009 : 21:58:59
Here's a writeup on an accident in a home storing gas in the garage using a 5 gallon can. Water heater in the garage. I know someone who has a water heater in their garage and I don't think it's 18" off the floor. Note, the usage in this article is for running a generater due to the hurricanes knocking out power.
http://www.sptimes.com/2004/09/29/Northpinellas/Stored_gas_in_sealed_.shtml
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